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	<title>Comments on: Nanjing III &#8211; Xuan Wu Lake &#8211; 玄武湖</title>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huangzhou is definitely worth going. If you haven&#039;t been there, you had better go there at least once. I personally think Hangzhou is the most beautiful city in China. Before it was highly commercialized, but after reconstruction project, it has changed a lot. Every time I go there, I just feel fresh-up... Enjoying the moment you walking around the West lake, you definitely can find the peace in the heart....

Actually I love Nanjing, I just think it could be better....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huangzhou is definitely worth going. If you haven&#8217;t been there, you had better go there at least once. I personally think Hangzhou is the most beautiful city in China. Before it was highly commercialized, but after reconstruction project, it has changed a lot. Every time I go there, I just feel fresh-up&#8230; Enjoying the moment you walking around the West lake, you definitely can find the peace in the heart&#8230;.</p>
<p>Actually I love Nanjing, I just think it could be better&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I think the Greenland Plaza is a horrendous example of land use planning.  That is why I am so fascinated by it.  It is very obvious that something like that doesn&#039;t belong where it is, especially in relation to the Gulou Drum Castle and the surrounding architecture.  I just can&#039;t figure out why it is there...the logic is boggling at times.  Gulou District competing against Baixia District, perhaps?  I always wondered if there was even enough demand for that amount of new office space...with several other towers being built in Xin Jie Kou. 

I read an article by a Spanish architect who designed one of the new towns in Shanghai, in Fengxian District - his firm had submitted design proposals before in Beijing be always lost the competitions because their designs were too &#039;traditional&#039; and not &#039;modern&#039; enough.  They won the Fengxian design because it was very &#039;modern&#039; and new looking.  Apparently it seems that that is what &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; city leaders want.     

I suppose the tunnel is an attempt at creating some sort of &#039;ring-road&#039; around the city to divert through traffic.  I&#039;ve never driven it, so it is difficult to really know it&#039;s  function.  

I do like the connectivity of the green spaces though, especially between Zijin Shan and Xuan Wu, Ji Ming Si and Gulou gong yuan.  You should see where I am right now....man...Yangpu is pretty bad for planning - not much greenspace...too many large boulevards...nothing is connected. 

I have yet to visit Hangzhou and Xi Hu - I should.  I&#039;ve heard it is quite commercial though - that is one thing I like about Nanjing&#039;s wall...it&#039;s still quite public and non-commercialized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I think the Greenland Plaza is a horrendous example of land use planning.  That is why I am so fascinated by it.  It is very obvious that something like that doesn&#8217;t belong where it is, especially in relation to the Gulou Drum Castle and the surrounding architecture.  I just can&#8217;t figure out why it is there&#8230;the logic is boggling at times.  Gulou District competing against Baixia District, perhaps?  I always wondered if there was even enough demand for that amount of new office space&#8230;with several other towers being built in Xin Jie Kou. </p>
<p>I read an article by a Spanish architect who designed one of the new towns in Shanghai, in Fengxian District &#8211; his firm had submitted design proposals before in Beijing be always lost the competitions because their designs were too &#8216;traditional&#8217; and not &#8216;modern&#8217; enough.  They won the Fengxian design because it was very &#8216;modern&#8217; and new looking.  Apparently it seems that that is what  <em> some </em>  city leaders want.     </p>
<p>I suppose the tunnel is an attempt at creating some sort of &#8216;ring-road&#8217; around the city to divert through traffic.  I&#8217;ve never driven it, so it is difficult to really know it&#8217;s  function.  </p>
<p>I do like the connectivity of the green spaces though, especially between Zijin Shan and Xuan Wu, Ji Ming Si and Gulou gong yuan.  You should see where I am right now&#8230;.man&#8230;Yangpu is pretty bad for planning &#8211; not much greenspace&#8230;too many large boulevards&#8230;nothing is connected. </p>
<p>I have yet to visit Hangzhou and Xi Hu &#8211; I should.  I&#8217;ve heard it is quite commercial though &#8211; that is one thing I like about Nanjing&#8217;s wall&#8230;it&#8217;s still quite public and non-commercialized.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry . a couple of typos there.. The PEACE masion on Beijing East Road ....they are just classic LAUGHINGSTOCKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry . a couple of typos there.. The PEACE masion on Beijing East Road &#8230;.they are just classic LAUGHINGSTOCKS.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh heh.... nowadays I already submitted my thesis, so I have a plenty of time to check out my friends&#039; blog each day, including yours. 

   Actually, i have to say Nanjing may have the best natual resources in China: Xuwu Lake, Zijin Mountain, Chang jiang, Qinhuai River, I haven&#039;t found another city who has the same components. however, it has really bad city planning. of course, it is only my personal views. 

    Comparing with Hangzhou, Nanjing&#039;s city planning sucks. Especially the planning around the Xuanwu lake. NanJiang once had a slogan like &quot; Making (Xuanwu)Lake exposed, making (Ming)Wall visible&quot; . it is good plan. the view now you can see in front of Nanjing railway station may be a successful example. However, except for that part, I didn&#039;t see any considerable changes around the Ming Wall---acollection of messy flat houses are still everywhere and most of Ming Wall are still hidden in the chaos. Moreover, nanjing may have the worst designing of skyscrapers in China. Just take the Gulou zon for instance, which biulding do you think they are classic enough to be a &quot; landmark&quot; ? Greenland Plaza? i don&#039;t mean to hurt your &quot;basy&quot; but he is way too ugly...I hate that mansion...turely....

      There are many jokes in Najing&#039;s city planning such as Nanjing Xuanwu tunnel on Zhong yang Road, the Peach Mansion on Beijing east Road, and including my office on Beijing west Road. .. They are really classic laughstocks....

     Another point I want to address is nanjing city shouldn&#039;t have bulit some many seemingly &quot;modern&quot; skycraper&quot; around the Xuanwu Lake&quot; , sometimes you just feel they are totally out of harmony. If you hit Huangzhou City and walk around West Lake, you can have utterly different feeling ----everything is just wonderful !

      Sorry for my whining, but it is my ture thoughts..Don&#039;t take it personally...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh heh&#8230;. nowadays I already submitted my thesis, so I have a plenty of time to check out my friends&#8217; blog each day, including yours. </p>
<p>   Actually, i have to say Nanjing may have the best natual resources in China: Xuwu Lake, Zijin Mountain, Chang jiang, Qinhuai River, I haven&#8217;t found another city who has the same components. however, it has really bad city planning. of course, it is only my personal views. </p>
<p>    Comparing with Hangzhou, Nanjing&#8217;s city planning sucks. Especially the planning around the Xuanwu lake. NanJiang once had a slogan like &#8221; Making (Xuanwu)Lake exposed, making (Ming)Wall visible&#8221; . it is good plan. the view now you can see in front of Nanjing railway station may be a successful example. However, except for that part, I didn&#8217;t see any considerable changes around the Ming Wall&#8212;acollection of messy flat houses are still everywhere and most of Ming Wall are still hidden in the chaos. Moreover, nanjing may have the worst designing of skyscrapers in China. Just take the Gulou zon for instance, which biulding do you think they are classic enough to be a &#8221; landmark&#8221; ? Greenland Plaza? i don&#8217;t mean to hurt your &#8220;basy&#8221; but he is way too ugly&#8230;I hate that mansion&#8230;turely&#8230;.</p>
<p>      There are many jokes in Najing&#8217;s city planning such as Nanjing Xuanwu tunnel on Zhong yang Road, the Peach Mansion on Beijing east Road, and including my office on Beijing west Road. .. They are really classic laughstocks&#8230;.</p>
<p>     Another point I want to address is nanjing city shouldn&#8217;t have bulit some many seemingly &#8220;modern&#8221; skycraper&#8221; around the Xuanwu Lake&#8221; , sometimes you just feel they are totally out of harmony. If you hit Huangzhou City and walk around West Lake, you can have utterly different feeling &#8212;-everything is just wonderful !</p>
<p>      Sorry for my whining, but it is my ture thoughts..Don&#8217;t take it personally&#8230;</p>
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